Comments on: Gmail at DreamHost http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/ Tips & Tricks for Dreamhosters Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:59:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: M. Lurig http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/#comment-8352 M. Lurig Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:36:45 +0000 http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/#comment-8352 Mail is a MASSIVE drain on their resources at dreamhost. Moving email to google not only improves the overall mail service, but reduces load on dreamhost clusters, improving the service in the way we most care about: hosting and serving webpages. I'm thrilled the option is there. Mail is a MASSIVE drain on their resources at dreamhost. Moving email to google not only improves the overall mail service, but reduces load on dreamhost clusters, improving the service in the way we most care about: hosting and serving webpages.
I’m thrilled the option is there.

]]> By: Unofficial DreamHost Blog http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/#comment-8344 Unofficial DreamHost Blog Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:07:34 +0000 http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/#comment-8344 Doug - I was very surprised too. As <a href="http://www.seobook.com/google-quietly-consuming-internet" rel="nofollow">Aaron Wall (seobook.com) puts it</a>: <blockquote>Not only are dumb companies buying into the everything Google strategy, but even some semi-intelligent ones are. After logging into Dreamhost recently I was shocked to see them integrating Google apps and email on all customer domains. What happens if/when Google buys GoDaddy? How does Dreamhost compete when Google gives away hosting as a loss leader?</blockquote> Doug - I was very surprised too.

As Aaron Wall (seobook.com) puts it:

Not only are dumb companies buying into the everything Google strategy, but even some semi-intelligent ones are. After logging into Dreamhost recently I was shocked to see them integrating Google apps and email on all customer domains. What happens if/when Google buys GoDaddy? How does Dreamhost compete when Google gives away hosting as a loss leader?

]]> By: Doug http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/#comment-8343 Doug Tue, 15 Apr 2008 02:03:34 +0000 http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/#comment-8343 Does anyone else find it strange that the default setting now for new user accounts is to use Gmail for email at Dreamhost. Does anyone else find it strange that the default setting now for new user accounts is to use Gmail for email at Dreamhost.

]]> By: Tim http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/#comment-8341 Tim Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:14:45 +0000 http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/#comment-8341 @sdayman Yes, that's correct. I assume Google does that so that you don't have to purchase an SSL certificate to run Gmail over https @sdayman

Yes, that’s correct. I assume Google does that so that you don’t have to purchase an SSL certificate to run Gmail over https

]]> By: sdayman http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/#comment-8340 sdayman Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:57:08 +0000 http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/#comment-8340 I set one of my domains to use the full automated Gmail hosting setup, but when I go to mail.mydomain.com, it's redirected to http://mail.google.com/a/mydomain.com/#inbox Is this how it's working for the rest of you? It's sure disappointing that it's not retaining my domain in the URL, like a CNAME. I set one of my domains to use the full automated Gmail hosting setup, but when I go to mail.mydomain.com, it’s redirected to http://mail.google.com/a/mydomain.com/#inbox

Is this how it’s working for the rest of you? It’s sure disappointing that it’s not retaining my domain in the URL, like a CNAME.

]]> By: Guy http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/#comment-8338 Guy Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:29:03 +0000 http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/#comment-8338 I enabled this on a client's new domain and it worked fine. However be warned that the DH Formmail no longer works with the GMail addresses as the email address is not hosted at DH- so I had to switch it back to the normal DH email. I enabled this on a client’s new domain and it worked fine. However be warned that the DH Formmail no longer works with the GMail addresses as the email address is not hosted at DH- so I had to switch it back to the normal DH email.

]]> By: Unofficial DreamHost Blog http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/#comment-8337 Unofficial DreamHost Blog Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:16:06 +0000 http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/#comment-8337 I'm overwhelmed with the response to this post. It Seems that almost everybody is very satisfied with using Gmail for your email. @Daniel Drucker: I'm very interested in hearing more about your custom SpamAssassin setup. I'm using the default setup and I'm still seeing about 50% of my spam. Maybe I could convince you to write a guest article? @Nico: Did you get your problem solved? I guess you can't access your old email account because you changed the DNS. You can probably use [randy].mail.dreamhost.com instead of mail.yourdomain.com to access your email. I’m overwhelmed with the response to this post. It Seems that almost everybody is very satisfied with using Gmail for your email.

@Daniel Drucker:
I’m very interested in hearing more about your custom SpamAssassin setup. I’m using the default setup and I’m still seeing about 50% of my spam. Maybe I could convince you to write a guest article?

@Nico:
Did you get your problem solved? I guess you can’t access your old email account because you changed the DNS. You can probably use [randy].mail.dreamhost.com instead of mail.yourdomain.com to access your email.

]]> By: Lyndon http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/#comment-8336 Lyndon Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:25:19 +0000 http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/#comment-8336 I am using Google Apps for my mail and calendar. I also manually applied the necessary changes to have GTalk use my domain effectively. I am not sure how that might interfere with anyone hosting their own Jabber server, but it might be another short cut you provide. I am using Google Apps for my mail and calendar. I also manually applied the necessary changes to have GTalk use my domain effectively. I am not sure how that might interfere with anyone hosting their own Jabber server, but it might be another short cut you provide.

]]> By: Matt http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/#comment-8335 Matt Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:08:58 +0000 http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/#comment-8335 I was initially excited by this, but was turned off by having to manually re-create 40 users' email accounts on the Gmail side - it's not as automated as I originally hoped. I was initially excited by this, but was turned off by having to manually re-create 40 users’ email accounts on the Gmail side - it’s not as automated as I originally hoped.

]]> By: TorbenGB http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/#comment-8334 TorbenGB Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:57:41 +0000 http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2008/04/08/gmail-at-dreamhost/#comment-8334 Some answers: @Ian, @Nico: You can transfer mails semi-manually from Dreamhost or from Gmail to the new Google Apps Gmail like this: 1) set up Outlook (or Outlook Express, or any other local IMAP mail software) to read IMAP mail from your old mail account. Both Gmail and DH allows this, but you have to turn it on for Gmail yourself (Gmail:Settings). 2) Set up Outlook to read IMAP mail on your now Google Apps Gmail account. 3) In Outlook, drag-and-drop folders from the old account to your new account. Result: Each folder you drop into Gmail will become a new label if it does not already exist. Speical folders like "Sent items" are stored in the IMAP subfolder "[Gmail\]". Like Levhita, I also switched from DH to Gmail years ago because of the better interface and the MUCH better spamfilter. Since then I have migrated my old mail into Gmail, and then my Gmail mails into the new Google Apps Gmail. Google Apps Gmail is truly excellent, because you get a solid interface, available from anywhere, and a solid spam filter. @Daniel Drucker: I'm surprised your Gmail spam filter is so poor. I also tried several approaches with custom spam-assasin at DH, but nothing worked as well as Gmail. I have set up my Gmail manually, not with the now MX settings, on "gmail.--". That way, I still have access to my old DH mail at "mail.--" and "webmail.--" Some answers:

@Ian,
@Nico:

You can transfer mails semi-manually from Dreamhost or from Gmail to the new Google Apps Gmail like this:

1) set up Outlook (or Outlook Express, or any other local IMAP mail software) to read IMAP mail from your old mail account. Both Gmail and DH allows this, but you have to turn it on for Gmail yourself (Gmail:Settings).

2) Set up Outlook to read IMAP mail on your now Google Apps Gmail account.

3) In Outlook, drag-and-drop folders from the old account to your new account.

Result: Each folder you drop into Gmail will become a new label if it does not already exist. Speical folders like “Sent items” are stored in the IMAP subfolder “[Gmail\]“.

Like Levhita, I also switched from DH to Gmail years ago because of the better interface and the MUCH better spamfilter. Since then I have migrated my old mail into Gmail, and then my Gmail mails into the new Google Apps Gmail.

Google Apps Gmail is truly excellent, because you get a solid interface, available from anywhere, and a solid spam filter.

@Daniel Drucker:
I’m surprised your Gmail spam filter is so poor. I also tried several approaches with custom spam-assasin at DH, but nothing worked as well as Gmail.

I have set up my Gmail manually, not with the now MX settings, on “gmail.–”. That way, I still have access to my old DH mail at “mail.–” and “webmail.–”

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