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	<title>Comments on: Major DOS Attack Against DreamHost&#8217;s Nameservers</title>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
		<link>http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2007/04/08/major-dos-attack-against-dreamhosts-nameservers/comment-page-1/#comment-7446</link>
		<dc:creator>Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chad (nice country btw): What I mean is that when the branch has been deployed in their system and perhaps by other people in the same business (aka webhosts).

It&#039;s not exactly the same thing (yeah, apples/pears) - but RHEL 4 caused issues for certain ISPs, to mention one thing.

It is always nice to wait and see how it behaves in a test-environment before launching it live. No matter what piece of software it is.

Then again; I might seriously need to reconsider that too! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chad (nice country btw): What I mean is that when the branch has been deployed in their system and perhaps by other people in the same business (aka webhosts).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not exactly the same thing (yeah, apples/pears) &#8211; but RHEL 4 caused issues for certain ISPs, to mention one thing.</p>
<p>It is always nice to wait and see how it behaves in a test-environment before launching it live. No matter what piece of software it is.</p>
<p>Then again; I might seriously need to reconsider that too! <img src='http://blog.dreamhosters.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2007/04/08/major-dos-attack-against-dreamhosts-nameservers/comment-page-1/#comment-7442</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Henrik

Did you just say that DreamHost should wait on updating Debian until the branch is more &quot;mature&quot;.

Do you seriously have any idea how long it takes for a release of Debian to be named &quot;stable&quot;.  The QA process is more in-depth and lengthly than any other Linux distro out there, including commercial vendors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Henrik</p>
<p>Did you just say that DreamHost should wait on updating Debian until the branch is more &#8220;mature&#8221;.</p>
<p>Do you seriously have any idea how long it takes for a release of Debian to be named &#8220;stable&#8221;.  The QA process is more in-depth and lengthly than any other Linux distro out there, including commercial vendors.</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
		<link>http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2007/04/08/major-dos-attack-against-dreamhosts-nameservers/comment-page-1/#comment-7435</link>
		<dc:creator>Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 05:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is wise of Dreamhost to put the Debian update on hold until all is tested and the branch of Debian is &quot;mature&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is wise of Dreamhost to put the Debian update on hold until all is tested and the branch of Debian is &#8220;mature&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2007/04/08/major-dos-attack-against-dreamhosts-nameservers/comment-page-1/#comment-7434</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 23:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link. That was an interesting read about the Debian 3.1 roll out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link. That was an interesting read about the Debian 3.1 roll out.</p>
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		<title>By: Unofficial DreamHost Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2007/04/08/major-dos-attack-against-dreamhosts-nameservers/comment-page-1/#comment-7432</link>
		<dc:creator>Unofficial DreamHost Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 18:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim - I&#039;ve no knowledge of DreamHost&#039;s plan to upgrade, but I think you can expect that it will at least take 2-3 months and probably more like 5-6 month before they will upgrade to the newest Debian.

My assumption is based on the last major upgrade of Debian to version 3.1 (Sarge). I found an old thread in the forum http://forum.dreamhosters.com/beginners/24099-Debian-3.1-Release.htm where Jeff explains why an upgrade takes so long:
- lots of testing required before upgrade
- customers need to be notified before major server changes
- upgrading 1000+ servers will take several weeks

As an example was Debian Sarge released in June 2005. DreamHost started the roll out in &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.dreamhosters.com/kbase/index.cgi?area=3131&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;July&lt;/a&gt;, had a 1/3 done by &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.dreamhosters.com/kbase/index.cgi?area=3145&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;August&lt;/a&gt; and finished the roll out in &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.dreamhosters.com/kbase/index.cgi?area=3164&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;October&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim &#8211; I&#8217;ve no knowledge of DreamHost&#8217;s plan to upgrade, but I think you can expect that it will at least take 2-3 months and probably more like 5-6 month before they will upgrade to the newest Debian.</p>
<p>My assumption is based on the last major upgrade of Debian to version 3.1 (Sarge). I found an old thread in the forum <a href="http://forum.dreamhosters.com/beginners/24099-Debian-3.1-Release.htm" rel="nofollow">http://forum.dreamhosters.com/beginners/24099-Debian-3.1-Release.htm</a> where Jeff explains why an upgrade takes so long:<br />
- lots of testing required before upgrade<br />
- customers need to be notified before major server changes<br />
- upgrading 1000+ servers will take several weeks</p>
<p>As an example was Debian Sarge released in June 2005. DreamHost started the roll out in <a href="http://blog.dreamhosters.com/kbase/index.cgi?area=3131" rel="nofollow">July</a>, had a 1/3 done by <a href="http://blog.dreamhosters.com/kbase/index.cgi?area=3145" rel="nofollow">August</a> and finished the roll out in <a href="http://blog.dreamhosters.com/kbase/index.cgi?area=3164" rel="nofollow">October</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://blog.dreamhosters.com/2007/04/08/major-dos-attack-against-dreamhosts-nameservers/comment-page-1/#comment-7431</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 15:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a little off topic, but I was curious if you knew when DreamHost plans to upgrade it&#039;s shared hosting environment to Debian 4.

http://www.debian.org/News/2007/20070408

You have a great blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a little off topic, but I was curious if you knew when DreamHost plans to upgrade it&#8217;s shared hosting environment to Debian 4.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.debian.org/News/2007/20070408" rel="nofollow">http://www.debian.org/News/2007/20070408</a></p>
<p>You have a great blog!</p>
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